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A Few Thoughts on the USCCB Live Tweets

I always appreciate JD Flynn’s live tweeting of the USCCB meeting. If you’re not on social media, you are missing out, so I thought I’d do a wee bit of a post (and it’s long because they went on and on). Also, I’m going to a little promoting for his organization, The Pillar, because he and Ed do a good job. So, if you detest social media, may I suggest this: https://pillarcatholic.com/subscribe

So here’s some of the important goings on, along with my comments on them. Snipping some so I don’t have to deal with inserting a lot of photos (a real drag for a blogger). If you get bored, make sure you at least read Bishop Daly’s comments. It’s really all that needed to be said and they could have called it a day.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Rhodes is now explaining pathway of document in pre-recorded message. Says there has been much confusion and bad information.

As pastors, we are concerned about decline in belief in the Real Presence. Then the pandemic didn’t help that.

#USCCB21

Bad information is totally right, thanks to Cardinals Cupich, Tobin and Gregory for, to put it as sweetly as I can, bending the truth through their minion media big time.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Rhodes:

The committee hopes to accomplish a document that would help Catholics increase their faith in the Eucharist as mystery to be believed, celebrated, and lived.

So, after being accused time and again of politicizing the Eucharist, Rhodes is trying to explain that this is, indeed, about the Eucharist and us. What a concept!

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Rhodes:

One section would deal with Eucharistic consistency.

We discussed the idea of national policy, as per c. 915 and 916. That idea arose from visits of US bps to the CDF. It was our intention to explain why we have these laws, not set national norms on probiting Communion”

Of course, Cardinal Cupich, et. al., do not want to be bothered by that pesky Canon Law.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Rhodes:

None of that was ever meant to be directed at one person. But to be a call to conversion.

AMEN, Bishop Rhodes! I wonder if America Magazine and National catholic Reporter will point that out? Don’t think so? Me neither.

JD Flynn

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+Rhodes:

We know that Aparecida and our own 2006 doc addressed these topics.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Rhodes

If we are able to draft the text, we will work with many committees, and there will be ample opportunity to weigh in. and we hope it will be a rich theological document that is very useful for Catholics.

And shall we have some discussion please.

#USCCB21

And then there’s Cardinal Cupich and his bots who don’t want to instruct the faithful at all.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Warfel:

This fits in with our Eucharistic revival project. I hope bishops will be able to discuss this. And I hope that there is also made time in the process for regional meetings at which everybody gets a chance to talk. That might unify us amid a contentious topic.

#USCCB21

I don’t know Warfel, but I’m a little hesitant to trust anyone trying to make a conversation which really should be a no brainer go on indefinitely. And, also, bouncing this back to a regional group could be a big problem if faithful dioceses are paired with Cardinal Cupich type dioceses. Seems almost like a Catholic version of getting rid of the electoral college. Does everyone have to adhere to what comes out of their region? I’m just curious, because there seems to be a big push by Cupich and company to do this.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Strickland of Tyler, Texas:

Thanks +Rhodes. I support this. Clarity is needed in the section on eucharistic consistency. I urge us to emphasize the clear connection between repentance, confession, firm purpose of amendment, and reception of the Eucharist”

And, of course, there’s only one way to do this: Canon 915.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Strickland:

We must focus on Our Lord who is truly present who is truly present at every tabernacle and in every Holy Mass as we all believe.

#USCCB21

Here’s hoping that’s what they all believe. Some days I wonder.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Strickland:

Prominent persons can’t be held to a different standard. High profile individuals are a few souls. The bigger issue is what we are teaching our children.

EXACTLY! The only difference in standards should be the difference between Canon 915 and 916, which are between the obstinate, manifest, grave sinner and the private sinner, the same difference the “67 signatories” (or whatever the real number is) like to obfuscate.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Lori:

I am in favor of this document. I hope all of us can unite in agreeing that a pastoral teaching document would be something we would all want and come together to issue.

This doc will provide a fine foundation for our Eucharistic revival project.

Well, it would be something that they SHOULD all want and come together to issue, but there are those who want to give the Eucharist to every last person: heretic,  non-Catholic, and obstinate, manifest, grave sinner alike.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Cary of Baker, Oregon:

I would like to second +Lori’s words. This is an unprecedented situation. We’ve never had a Catholic president “who is opposed to the teaching of the Church.” I support the work of the committee.

For all of you liberals who like to point to Trump, the last time I checked, he still wasn’t claiming Catholicism. Biden is the head of our country and touts his Catholicism, yet he thwarts it at, oh, many turns in the non-prudential areas. ß Please note the difference between prudential and non-prudential. How to handle “climate change,” poverty, immigration, etc., are prudential judgments we are all free do disagree on. Abortion, euthanasia, etc.? Not so. Don’t even try to go there with the rest of the prudential judgments we can make.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Tyson:

Also, given a very rich and broad understanding of the dignity of human life and offenses against it, is our approach to this question focused on abortion to the exclusion of other important moral issues. Or would other kinds of issues also lead to a similar response?

Only the non-prudential ones. Obfuscating. This is why we’re in the state we’re in. Surprise! He’s one of the dastardly 67.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Rhodes: I think our document would be broader, and would include recent magisterium, including that of Pope Francis.

I think it’s important that we aren’t focusing on one issue. When we talk about canon 915, which we’re not setting policy on, a variety of issues could apply.

Like, say, attempting to “marry” two dudes? Yes, that might also apply. See how flexible I can be?

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Rhodes:

While a lot of the publicity has been about pro-abortion politicians, I think we would also look at someone involved in human trafficking, or a leader in a white supremacist group, going up to receive communion.

#USCCB21

Please don’t get sucked into this, Bishop Rhodes. We don’t need to define every mortal sin out there. You just need to stick to Canon 915.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Cupich: There is ambiguity on context and content.

+Ladaria wrote he thought we were talking about worthiness of communion, now you say it’s a broad teaching document. But this IS about worthiness to receive communion for public officials. And committee chairs have said as much.

It’s about following Canon 915. I’ve never seen it aimed only at Catholic politicians. Heck, I live in the SF Bay Area. It’s also going to apply to the teachers in diocesan schools if their sins are public. How about the ever-so-Catholic Bill Gates? Not a public official. Cardinal Cupich is just doing Cardinal Cupich.

Near as I can tell, this is the outline they’re talking about. Do you see only politicians listed? Nice try, Cardinal. Somebody should have smacked him down on the spot. https://www.scribd.com/document/509294305/Pillar-Media-USCCB-Memo-on-Eucharistic-coherence-5-22-2021

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Cupich:

It’s hard to know what kind of direction you’re going to go in. So would you be willing to delete from your outline that you plan to talk about a specific category of persons, but talk about the expectation that all of us examine our consciences.

That would be Canon 916, Cardinal. Nice try.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Cupich:

And also, we have the task of reconnecting with our people after the pandemic. My pastors are confused that we want to talk about excluding people from the Eucharist when we need to be welcoming people.

Sigh. They’re not coming back because you never took the Eucharist seriously in the first place, and taking it away during the pandemic just added to that reality that the laity sees. Congratulations.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Cupich:

 I cannot support this. If you delete from your outline the part about politicians I would take another look. Those who want to rush this demonstrate what this is all about it: politicians. Let’s take our time and not rush this.

Again, nice try, Cardinal Cupich. I cannot believe the amount of cover he’s trying to provide to the elites. Well, I suppose I can.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Wester:

I believe we should consider a brief pastoral reflection on what it means to be the Body of Christ at a time of suffering and loss.

This has been a period of much suffering.

I would call this short reflection “Welcome Home.” An invitation to discover what unites us.

Squirrel!

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Wester:

I realize this is a pivot from the current document being proposed, but I think it is still focused on the Eucharist.

#USCCB21

A “pivot” is not the word I would use, but thanks for trying to stay relevant to Cardinal Cupich other than signing his letter.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Rhodes: We want out document to have a positive tone. But the committee has spent a lot of time preparing this outline, and I don’t want to withdraw the plan, but the document would be welcoming and positive.

How about, “We welcome all obstinate, manifest, grave sinners to the confessional and to make a public repudiation of their former errors!” We’d ALL welcome that.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Cordileone:

We tried to talk about this in 2004, when McCarrick withheld +Ratzinger’s guidance, which Ladaria affirms. I am in favor of being broad about consistency, though the Ratzinger guidance did indeed mention abortion and euthanasia.

BOOM!

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Cordileone:

I hope we can all agree on what the teaching of the Church is, and thus what would be contained in this document.

And that would be both barrels!

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Cordileone:

Our approach respects the autonomy of bishops.

Also, our credibility is on the line. The eyes of the country on us. If we fail now, and do not act courageously in presenting Church teaching clearly, how can we expect to be taken seriously again.

#USCCB21

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Cordileone:

I would remind us of JPII’s go-to phrase: Be not afraid.

And the souls of the faithful are on the line, including Joe’s and Nancy’s.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Medley of Owensboro:

My concern is that we have lost the narrative in terms of the media, “both the secular media and media that would call itself Catholic.

All they’re reporting on is this Eucharistic consistency thing. They’re waiting to see if we will withhold Eucharist.

Oh, sure. That’s what you should worry about. Salvation of souls, small potatoes. Again, he is one of the signers and one of the reasons we are where we are today.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Stowe: I hear discrepancy. I hear ppl saying this is important because we have a Catholic president who has a position at odds with the Church on abortion.

There is not serene dialogue, there is ambiguity about why we are doing this…

JD Flynn

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+Stowe: Many Catholics have gone to non-Catholic churches because of scandals or disagreement of Catholic teaching, so maybe we need to be convincing of ourselves about what is so important about the Eucharist. We need to be a healing presence in the world at this time.

#USCCB21

Lamest comments ever. They have gone to other churches because they don’t know the teachings of the Catholic Church because, as a whole, you have failed. You may not know why the Eucharist is so important but, I assure you, some of us do. And serene dialogue? I suppose you should expect it but not many of us do because we know that when it comes to the sacrilege of the Eucharist, there are simply so of you who don’t give a rip. I’m glad there’s no serenity about that!

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+Gregory:

The last year has made interpersonal and spiritual distance from one another. In my nearly 38 yrs as a member of the USCCB, no similar moment. We have faced similar challenges before, but with time for dialogue, debate, prayer, and always in each others company.

JD Flynn

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+Gregory:

When we addressed sexual abuse in 2002 — though not completely — we did so together, as a conference.

We need to pursue and deepen a spirit of unity before we presume to address other critical matters.

JD Flynn

@jdflynn

+Gregory:

We need to spend time in candid, straightforward conversation together before taking the next steps toward any statement or plan of action. To seek to advance any discussion prior to a serene and necessary dialogue would further damage our unity.

#USCCB21

JD Flynn

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+Gregory: The choice before us at this moment is either we pursue a path of strengthening unity among ourselves, our settle for creating a document that will not further bring unity, but may very well further damage it.

All of this to say you haven’t the job you should have done in your last acclaimed 38 years and leave the faithful to sit with their confusion, ignorance and sin. You couldn’t care less about unity. You just care about getting your way. You certainly don’t care about the sinners you’re leaving there because you don’t want to be uncomfortable.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+DiNardo: My interest in this document is on the part on the mystery celebrated and the mystery believed. I favor the document going forward. I hope the committee puts emphasis on the presence of the Eucharistic Lord as a part of ecclesial communion.

Ecclesiology is important.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+DiNardo: we do things as a koinia. We do things in communion. Ecclesiology would allow us to say something that sustains the section on the Eucharistic lived.

Our unity in Christ is so important that I think we should develop the document and then discuss it in person.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+DiNardo: I object to those who suggest that those of us who want to see the document go forward is less than Christological and ecclesiological.

I support the document going foward. And there will be ways for us to have serene dialogue.

#USCCB21

As far as Cardinals go in the US, he’s all we have to defend the Eucharist. So sad.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Kurtz:  I am glad this is not a policy that does not direct a local bishop but a teaching foundation. We need that foundation. And unity will begin with a deep respect for one another. And respect that our pastoral judgments may not always be the same.

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+Kurtz: the media has anticipated a document that is not even done. we have an outline and I am persuaded by it. I will welcome the text and the dialogue that will follow.

#USCCB21

Could they possibly be judging something they don’t know about? Couldn’t be! They would never do that in attempt to get it stopped!

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Knestout: Secular media has framed this in a political narrative. The Washington Post buried the lede, mention of the Pew poll, many Catholics don’t believe in Real Presence.

We shouldn’t relinquish our teaching role. We should make sure this doc complements Eucharistic revival

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! Don’t be like Bishop Medley who defers to the media.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Jackels: I am opposed to the drafting of the document. Diocesan bishops are competent to teach about this and also to engage individuals in dialogue. I don’t think this document or the Eucharistic revival project will bear fruit for parishioners. I don’t support another document

Umm, won’t comment on the appropriateness of that name, but if bishops are so competent, how come they have failed so miserably??? BELIEF IN THE REAL PRESENCE IS AT AN ALL-TIME LOW!

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Bambera: It is most unfortunate that our unity has been called into question by ourselves and by the people entrusted to our care. We should make clear that we desire to maintain unity– by following with care and precision the protocols set forth by +Ladaria.

#USCCB21

You signed a letter trying to take down any discussion on the topic. Maybe that’s why your unity has been called into question???

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Olson: We can not focus exclusively on abortion, but we cannot ignore that abortion is a sin of such gravity that it carries with it a latae sententiae excommunication. We cannot ignore the circumstances in which we are, and we need to proceed with good dialogue.

#USCCB21

It never was exclusively on abortion. It’s just the spin Cardinal Cupich and his minions put on things. It is one of the preeminent, but it’s not even close to being the only thing that makes you an obstinate, manifest, grave sinner.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Biegler: This document could become a source of discord and disunity, as Cardinal Ladaria said. I think we need the two-stage dialogue and a consultation with other episcopal conferences. We should heed the emphasis of unity and dialogue. Preserving unity is urgent.

#USCCB21

Mortal sin and the Real Presence, that should just be completely ignored because unity?!? Who is he suggesting we consult with? Germany? If he wants to play this game, I say we consult with Poland and Africa.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Biegler I will vote against the document, unless the section on Eucharistic consistency were separated from the document. I propose we separate the Eucharistic consistency section from the doc and then move forward.

Of course, you would. And while we are at it, why don’t we just take out all of the pesky Catholic teaching stuff. Unity and all. Siiiigggghhhh! And if you’re keeping score, he is another signer.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Biegler: This proposal is not to disregard the discipline of the Church, but to have a mature dialogue, and to meet in person to talk about these issues.

It’s Canon Law.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Biegler: We should have regional meetings, then appoint bishops to dialogue with other episcopal conferences, and then we should have additional regional meetings and then dialogue.

Again with the regional meetings? There’s something quite strange about it, I’m telling you.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Biegler: Is the doctrinal committee willing to remove the section on Eucharistic consistency so that we can move forward with drafting the document?

“Let’s remove a crucial part of the document and just put in what I like.” What a baby! How about you just vote on drafting that document? They can keep Eucharistic consistency in and move forward with drafting the document just fine. Your temper tantrums don’t quite have a bearing on that fact. 

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+Soto: The Eucharist is a foretaste of the eschatological banquet. This isn’t in the document, but it seems like it would be quite helpful to add.

B/c Eucharist should not be defined by the political rancor of the current moment in this country. The Eucharist defines reality.

JD Flynn

@jdflynn

+Soto: The Eucharist is the sacrament of charity, a prominent theme of BenXVI, and there should be a coherence between the charity of the Eucharist and the charity of our lives.

That’s all well and good, but Canon 915 is quite charitable, too.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Soto: Finally, I want to endorse the recommendation of a strong dynamic of dialogue.

This is so Bishop Soto. Always trying to play all sides. He’s kind of California’s Rodney King. “Can’t we all just get along?!”

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Etienne: We should focus on the Eucharist as the source of our healing and hope– elevate this teaching document to that topic.

The challenge we’re facing today is that the source of unity and our life is the Eucharist, which is now enmeshed in a conversation about politics.

It can’t heal if you’re condemning yourself by partaking in it unworthily.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Etienne: That’s a very difficult place for us to be.

The document seems likely to focus on Eucharistic consistency.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Etienne:

I keep coming back to the person of Jesus. The grace of the Eucharist is through the cross. Jesus came into the world to save, not condemn.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Etienne:

Jesus came into the world to reveal the perfect love of the Father, and then he choose us to be the face of the Risen Christ in the Church and the world today.

The document is so enmeshed that it makes it difficult to keep the Eucharist as its intended by the Lord.

  1. A) There is no document yet. B) The gate is narrow. C) Signer.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Coakley of OKC:

“Fear is useless, what is needed is trust”- Luke 8:50

What is needed is trust in what the Lord is calling us to do. I think our Church needs a teaching document, we will have ample time to parse and amend this doc, and then vote.

EXACTLY! Remember, this is all just about drafting it. They can vote to parse it later! First some didn’t want it discussed, then the same ones wanted it discussed forever, and now they don’t want to even see a draft on it.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Coakley:

but we need to propose something. Our people need to hear from us.

We need to be shepherds, and propose the greatest gift that has been given in a clear, and direct, and non-apologetic way. What a great gift the Lord has left us with.

Let’s just say Bishop Coakley is not a signer.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Wall: Thanks +Rhodes for your clarity. I see this as pastoral not political. A teaching document to teach from the heart and mind of Our Lord.

We were all sad about the Pew study.

It was devastating.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Konderla of Tulsa: I want to speak in favor of moving forward with this document. I am hearing from lots of ppl, as you all are, “who have a very simplistic understanding of how c. 915 actually works,” I want to help deepen people’s understanding of the gift of the Eucharist.

Thankfully this is not lost on everyone!

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+McKnight: There is a division in the conference, in terms of how we’re perceiving the +Ladaria letter.

We have more issue as a canonical when we go outside our lane. There isn’t a strong foundation for the conference to be involved in deciding issues of sacramental discipline.

The “discipline” is already given in Canon Law, but thanks for playing. Signer.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+McKnight: Why wasn’t it part of a plan for regional meetings? Why isn’t there a plan for more consultation?

#USCCB21

Again and again, there’s something very sneaky about the repeated suggestion of the regional meetings. You’re consulting now, so you’re free to vote yea or nay!

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Coerver of Lubbock:

There has been a sense of urgency at the conference since November about a need to respond to the new presidential administration.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

A working group was formed, and then on inauguration day, a USCCB presidential msg was released that did not flow from our conversation. I was quite distressed about that.

I want to call for provincial meetings (a province is smaller than a region) so that we listen to each other

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Coerver: I am disturbed that we are rushing because of political calculations, and I am very concerned about that.

That’s not where the urgency comes from. It comes from the fact that people don’t believe. Deal. Stop trying to make this all about politics.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Estevez of St. Augustine:

There is unanimity among us on the culture of life and protection of the unborn. We have much unity. I am confident that we can move forward and we can include suggestions like involving regional meetings and consultations, but I recommend we move fwd

NOT a signer.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Daly of Spokane:

I am for it. Landscape has changed since 2006. There is aggressiveness among pro-abortion pols. I think call for dialogue with elected officials might be a delaying tactic.

Many elected officials know what the Church teaches. We should root ourselves in truth.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Daly: I think we should clarify, speak the truth in humility and charity. We are the shepherds of these elected officials and others.

We don’t want to issue a document called “We agree to disagree.”

Bahahaha! That was the high point of my day! Bishop Daly calling it like it is. He never minces words.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Daly:

Our credibility has suffered bc McCarrick report, and what it omitted, like information about McCarrick’s money and who benefitted from him.

We need to lead as shepherds.

#USCCB21

Geez! Double blast with a reload. Somebody buy this man a drink!

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Clark, aux of Los Angeles:

I think +McElroy was very clear. Are we giving consideration to whether we’re going to be heard accurately. I would prefer a doc on grave situation that many ppl don’t believe in the Real Presence.

#USCCB21

Uh, I think that’s what this was all about.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Silva of Honolulu:

The Eucharist is a person. A person who was not afraid to eat with sinners. Not afraid to be criticized for doing so.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Silva:

We need to teach what is right, but in the end we need to let the Lord sort it out, I don’t think we need to police this, we need to let people know what is right… but I fear we are trying to redeem the Redeemer.

I have to wonder how he can so casually put souls in jeopardy. “Meh. We’ll let God sort it out.” The sad thing is that he will indeed sort it out. “Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord.”

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Silva:

We should have more dialogue in regional meetings before we decide if we want to go ahead with writing a document.

I bet you do.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Hying:

We should proceed with the document. I hear from Catholics who are confused about a pro-abortion Catholic president who receives the Eucharist. We should pray for our Catholic president, we love our president, I pray we can say something beautiful and true.

#USCCB21

So simple and so right.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Tobin of Newark:

The Holy See points us to unity with the Holy See and national episcopal conferences throughout the world. Our obligation to place unity at the center of things allows us to proclaim the Gospel to the nation.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Tobin:

The inclusion of Eucharistic consistency in this document undermines our unity. Any effort to limit the Eucharist based upon policy positions will thrust the bishops into our country’s toxic political culture and drive a wedge between the Church and American society.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Tobin:

The inclusion of Eucharistic consistency will also drive away many Catholics. The issues are searing and complex. The whole of our episcopate must be engaged — that is why +Ladaria wants us in genuine dialogue.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Tobin:

The proposal before us presents us with a stark and historic choice. Voting in favor of it will produce a document but not unity. Voting against it will send us on a path toward ongoing dialogue and toward unity.

I will vote no.

Well, you just knew he would pop up somewhere. “The inclusion of Catholicism undermines our unity!”

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Nevares, aux of Phoenix:

Bishop Olmsted has written a pastoral letter on the Eucharist called Veneremus Cernui. I urge you all to read it.

Please do. https://dphx.org/veneremur-cernui/

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Hebda: The doctrine committee has prompted the most robust dialogue I’ve been a part of as a bishop. I think if we have concrete proposals before us, we will be able to move fwd as +Ladaria has called us to do.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Hebda:

We need to address this matter, even if it means a bit of ‘lio’ as the Holy Father would say.

Ouch! Did that hurt, Cardinal Cupich? Love it when the bishops thump his spin.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Kalabat, Chaldean eparch:

Everyone has spoken about the Eucharist except us a body. I think it’s time. We need to move forward.

#USCCB21

About time, too!

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Folda:

I am in support. This is an important document. And the whole picture needs to be presented to our faithful. I take inspiration from the Aparecida of the bishops of Latin America. We should be full in our teaching without zeroing in on one person.

#USCCB21

And nobody has suggested that, except Cardinal Cupich and friends.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Folda:

I think this is the most non-controversial thing we would do. Moving fwd to teach what we believe about the Eucharist.

You’d think that, wouldn’t you. Not sure why it’s so hard for 67ish bishops, but it is.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Hartmayer of ATL:

“Who am I to judge.”  “Although we are a redeemed ppl, none of us is truly worthy.”

We need to feed the hungry who will grow in faith, and allow the grace of the sacrament to heal the hearts of those who need it.

#USCCB21

There is no grace when it’s received unworthily.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Rhodes will now answer questions that were asked and give final comments:

This dialogue has been very helpful to listen to you as brothers. The goal of cmmte will be unity: unity in truth, unity in truth.

Regionals mtgs is a good idea. I hope that can be set up.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

+Gomez: Yeah, we can set up regional mtgs or even provincial mtgs.

It’s a trap. I have a bad feeling about this. Any other Star Wars lines I can get in? Don’t go there, guys. Too many of the signers are suggesting it.

JD Flynn @jdflynn

Burril says that if bps want to change their vote on the marriage and family doc bc of the late-addition amendment, they can contact a help desk.

Let’s just hope the help desk is not run by Dominion.

 

7 thoughts on “A Few Thoughts on the USCCB Live Tweets”

  1. It astouds me that we have to have a so called ” revival” on the blessed Sacrament. Maybe, just maybe if the wolves in sheep’s clothing hadn’t removed the altar railings, denied reception at the Altar railings on the tongue and didn’t move the Tabernacle to some side spot instead of leaving it at the center of the Altar as it deserves we wouldn’t be here today. Very difficult to trust the words of some of these men who are known liars, whose actions defy their true belief in Christ as body, blood, soul and divinity in the Eucharist.They need to begin first with mediation on our Creed. However I doubt it would have an effect on some, thru are to far gone and their words are just that, words.

  2. I am a little surprised at your positive reaction to the bishops on this. This document, if written, will be nothing more than a general statement of Christ’s real presence in the eucharist. Something those of us who made our first communion in the 1950’s learned in the second grade.

  3. I predict there will be NO positive outcome from this little meeting of the miters. The teachings on the Real Presence will be acknowledged and how to evangelize the pew sitters on the importance of the Eucharist and how we are missing out if we do not accept this teaching. But what to do with those Catholics public figures perpetuating public sin in contradicting Church teachings as abortion, euthanasia and contraception will come to no acceptable end. Nothing will be done about them at all except perhaps a call to a little bit of self reflection before coming up for communion so as to receive our Lord worthily.

    Next vote on abortion? “I’m personally opposed to abortion but I cannot allow my faith to interfere with my office so all restrictions on abortion from this point on, will be lifted. Yes it pains me as a Catholic to sign this bill. I guess it just sucks to be an unborn child.”

  4. The regional meetings could sideline more conservative voices from smaller dioceses. it would make it easier to strong arm the auxiliary bishops the archbishops and cardinals have appointed. If you can shut up some bishops and get yourself elected to represent the region, you have a much better chance to control the narrative.

    The calls to unity alarm me, too. Unity only goes one way.

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